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gougou -

Apart from the good-looking part, that is pretty much what is happening. In the countryside, you
are allowed to have a second child if the first is a girl. However, I am dubious of this rule's
merits. For once, it confirms the idea that girls are worth less than boys. Furthermore, about one
in four families will end up with two girls. Why would somebody who is unhappy with one girl be
happy with two?
(Also, this is not going to even out the population. In comparison to a strict one-child policy,
all you are doing is increasing the chances of boys when girls are needed.)

And exceptions for exceptionally wealthy, well, you've got them for every rule in China. But for
the one-child policy, you don't even need to be all that wealthy: even in the countryside, there's
a significant amount of people that will illegally get a second child and just pay the fine.



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Woodpecker -

"Also, exceptionally wealthy or good-looking people will be allowed an exception granted only by
the government. Any comments?"

Yes: that is unfair. The only difference between the wealthy and the poor is the amount of money.
The rules should not be bent just because the rich have lots of money. I know this is an
exaggeration, but it's like saying: "all middle-class murderers will be sent to jail. All rich
murderers will remain free men (and women)". If you make a rule, you make it for everybody. No
exceptions.










gougou -

But in this case the argument might be that if you're rich, you can better support your children.
In the poorer parts of the country, there's still a lot of families that have trouble feeding
their children.

However, as it is mostly poor people that want a lot of children, while many rich people are happy
with just one or even completely childless, that rule would do little good.










muyongshi -



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However, as it is mostly poor people that want a lot of children, while many rich people are happy
with just one or even completely childless, that rule would do little good.

I agree with you completely but I see more and more middle class people not wanting any children
at all. I was quite surprised by this as it seems to me that it is usually the middle class that
have the medium sized families with the poorer having larger ones and the rich being the one or
none. I wish I was a statistician and had time to do all these numbers but alas...










ABCinChina -

I guess that I've always believed that the Chinese race needs to be physically stronger, taller,
and even better looking. Since I was a kid, I've always hated being plagued by stereotypes. After
reading about Nazi Germany and their plans in a superior race, I thought the same principle can be
applied to Chinese people. (The Nazis set up these breeding camps where ideal attributes were
picked out to hopefully improve the race) And this plan can only work in a communist government
such as China. Of course, this idea would never work due to the ethical issues, but a little
daydreaming never hurts anyone.

Regarding the more boys than girls born problem, I think my idea would work fine. You can only
have one child is the first-born is a boy. If it is a girl, then you may try again one more time
at your own risk. 1 out of 2 the family will get a boy on the second try, while 1/4 the family
will get another girl. (Since the chances of landing two heads when flipping a coin are 1/4) This
will indeed increase the female population and thus eliminate the problem. I do not see how this
would not work.










muyongshi -

Let me put it to you mathematically and maybe you will see my point.

Family A has a boy- stops having children
Family B has a girl- tries again and gets a boy

Now we have a ratio of 2:1 still more boys than girls

Now obviously Family B could have another girl so in which case the ratio flips. So if you combine
the possibility and you would still wind up with more boys than girls

Family A has a boy
Family B has a girl and a boy
Family C has a girl and a girl

(and by the way the chances are still 50% not 25% percent because each time it is 50%. You can't
do a summation of the "flipping twice" because each time the probability resets itself in these
type of situations. Now if you said the probability of having two girls then it is only 25% but on
a second try the probability of them having a girl is still 50%)

Now looking at my example above it all comes out equal except for the fact that we are starting
with more boys than girls anyway.

Yes there are a hundred outliers where Family A has a girl and stops and family B has a girl and
boy and so on and so forth.

My point is that it may work but there is no guarantee for it work. Your solution does not
guarantee and increase in female population or in a reduction of gender gap. It is possible that
it only leads to a wider gender gap.










ABCinChina -

Ok I hear your point, but there are very many families that stop having children after one girl.
Your example also would need to have another family (D) listed which would make there slightly be
more girls than boys. If everybody follows the plan (which they might not) it would look like
this...

Family A has a boy
Family B has a girl (and stops)
Family C has a girl, then a boy
Family D has a 2 girls (must stop) <-- at this point there are 4 girls for every 2 boys.

If the original idea does not guarantee a rise in population of girls, then to further increase
the girls in the population, the total offspring number can be set to (say 4) meaning that all
families will be allowed to keep having kids until they have a boy or until the set limit of
offspring. Of course that means that 1 out of 16 families will have 4 girls which might be
unfortunate depending on how the family views the situation. Then it would look like this clearly
making more girls than boys in the long run.

Family A has a boy (must stop)
Family B has a girl (and stops)
Family C has a girl and a boy
Family D has a girl and a girl (then stops)
Family E has 2 girls, then a boy
Family F has 3 girls (only one more try) <-- at this point there are 9 girls for every 3 boys!
and so on...(too bad I'm not good at statistics, but this would clearly make much more girls than
boys)












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