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nakuru -

Well i really wouldn't like to get a job because I've green eyes and dark blond hair. I rather
have clear pronunciation which was also stated by natives speakers. Now I'm in UK and work with
English people so I hope that it would help to improve my English even more. Anyway thanks for
feedback and i will do my best to get a job. For sure I will not do harm to anyone with my English



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billiardsmike -

A Dutch speaker. Sorry if that seemed to be a generalization. It's meant to be a reference to two
specific individuals.










roddy -

If there are any laws or even regulations about non-native speakers teaching English, I've yet to
hear of them. You might be a less popular choice, and you might have to take a slightly worse job
then a similarly qualified native speaker of English, but you'll be able to find work.










pingpangqiu -

I agree I think it is obviously easier for a native speaker to find English teaching jobs, but if
you " look the part " and have a clear accent you should be fine. Try this site (if you dont' know
it already): http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/china/

You could also try the kindergardens. I'm in Shanghai and have heard of some people from Israel,
Philippines etc getting part-time + full-time jobs in kindergardens at the same pay rates as
native speakers. Often the language schools such as English First, Web International, Wall Street
want native speakers but the kindergardens seem to be less strict. I would also advise you to wait
until you get here to find a job as you can often negotiate a much better salary. By all means do
your research about different schools, but wait until you are here to visit the schools, meet the
people in charge etc until you sign a contract/agree to work in a school.

I know of a number of teachers in SH who get paid half of what other schools are paying here as
they accepted a job before coming just because they were worried about coming here without a job.
Do your research, but take a bit of a risk come here without a job and then go walk around town
with your resume and give it to every English School, kindergarden, middle school etc that you can
find! it should not be a problem.










Senzhi -

Pingpangqiu,

I agree ... however, there's a small problem here:

Tourist and business visa's can no longer be exchanged into residence permits for foreign teachers
from within the country ... at least not officially.
A colleague of mine had to go back to the UK, as he was here on a tourist visa but had to apply
for a Z-visa from the Chinese embassy in the UK. There was no way they were willing to change the
tourist visa into a residence permit here in Guangdong.

The rules change quickly, especially with the obvious upcoming events.










pingpangqiu -

Yes your right Senzhi,

The Chinese government seem to be clamping down on teachers who are working without the correct
visa and making random changes to the laws regarding visas for English teachers etc. I think there
must be loads of teachers working on business or student visas, but of course it doesn't make it
right.

In Shanghai there are lots of Agencies like www.emoo.net who can renew visas for you for a fee. I
guess they have some good guanxi in the consulates. Did your colleague try using one of these
types of agencies in Guangdong? Could he not just go to Hong Kong and change his visa?










Senzhi -

We've tried every rule that's not in the book ... to no avail. It was simply: back to the UK ...
and at his own expenses.










nakuru -

So what's the solution for such situation? I'm not worried and I will go there to look work on my
own but coming back just to change visa is too expensive. So I can either agree to work on half of
the salary when applying for the work from Europe or to go there get better conditions but be
forced to go back.










pingpangqiu -

You can arrive on a tourist visa and then try to change your visa with an agency such as this one
that exists in Shanghai.
http://www.emoo.net/modules/icontent/index.php?page=5

Or just work on a business visa which I think a number of part-time teachers do (which is not
strictly legal - but much of what Chinese businesses do is not legal!)

You could come here on a student visa and study Chinese at a University for a semester and then
change your visa when you get here.










nakuru -

tkanks for all your ideas. I have done small research on visas issue and i'm a bit confused as
some of you say that L visa can not be converted into X visa within borders of China. To obtain F
visa I need latter of invitation form University and to get such i need to enroll on their classes
and to do this i need to pay all the fees and tuitions for a semester- that's quite expensive
solution. And if i'm not going or could not attend their classes all this would go for nothing. Is
it easier to change F visa into working visa than from tourist one? What is the minimum one have
to do to enroll on Uni to get F visa?












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